Usually Black Friday is a day for us Guys to go and hide while the Women folk go out and do battle for the elusive “Bargain”, this year my LGS’s online ad actually had something that grabbed my attention rather than generating a yawn. S&W is rumored to have made these for some overseas Law Enforcement Agency, I really have no idea but they’ve never appeared in S&W’s online product summaries while the .357 version has. I shudder to think of firing one of these with full bore .357 ammunition, I one owned a Charter Arms Police Bulldog which weighted 21 oz. vs the 13-14 ozs. of these, it made my 4 inch S&W .44 mag seem tame. That said, in the heat of battle so to speak most would never notice the recoil if they’ve spent any time with the gun at all. My intent is to use the 130gr FMJ non plus P .38 loads for practice and then carry with Speer’s 135gr Gold Dot +P .38 Special. Point of impact should be close within 15 yards and that’s the likely extreme range one of these is going to be used. Back in the day we practiced with Wadcutters and carried full power on duty and that practice worked well for those who put in significant practice. The revolver is known as the 360J, a Scandium framed, stainless barrel and blackened stainless cylinder revolver, its hairy chested .357 counterpart is the 360SC or 360PD and they have Titanium cylinders and weight about .5 ounce to 1 ounce less. These are obviously made to carry much and shoot with fun power loads little but practice will prove very helpful in controlling them. Pictures for those who have to have ’em.
Okay for the “bargain” part of this story, these were marked down to $329 and S&W has a $50 rebate on these and several other handguns, so with taxes and all I’m going to end up with $303 in it, now that’s a Bargain. Insert large ear to ear smiley face.
Another long range Saturday at VIR with Ken Barfield’s LR Shooting class, a very good group including a husband and wife with the wife saying she didn’t know that she could do this. She did great and by the end of the day was walking around with a huge grin on her face. Quite windy most of the afternoon which made things a lot more interesting..
Ken attempting to make ’em understand ranging and using the charts.
Not everyone was intent on learning….
On the 500/800 yard firing line, a couple of those leaning trees actually came down while we were shooting, kinda breezy.
unfortunately it didn’t bring any ammunition with it, dang that stuff isn’t easy to find and a bit pricy when you do, got some on the way, mounted a Nikon 5 3.5-14x BDC. Supposedly only 20 rounds through it, you know the routine, only driven to the range on Sundays etc. It is clean as a pin without a mark on it and the test target is just sick even if it is at 50 yards. Photos will have to wait on Sun Shine along with the .17m2. Expensive week so far but some nice additions to the accumulation.
I purchased four boxes of Prvi Partisan 9.3×62 from a gentleman in Jonesbough Tn. at a very reasonable price so now the Big Dog can eat, looking forward to getting it to the range…I think.
Had a Weaver 3-9x scope a friend had given me which I’ll do my initial testing with, we’ll see if something else will be better, eye relief could be a bit longer frankly as I feel like I’m having to crawl the stock a bit, we’ll see.
Should be an interesting experience, my gunsmith says the 9.3×62 isn’t really bad, more of a long shove than some of the Magnums.
It’s a lot more fun but only ensures there will be another cleaning day which is fine, it only takes a little while to clean them and getting them dirty usually lasts a lot longer. Confirming the 100 yard zero on the Creedmoor, took only 4 shots. one at 50 yards then three at 100, love it. The 6.5×55 consumed a good bit more time and ammo, got it on paper at 50 yards then started load testing at 100. The Prvi Partisan wasn’t well received by it and frankly I was getting a bit discouraged, mostly 1 1/2 to 2 inch groups, not what I usually expect from CZ rifles or Prvi ammunition. A switch to Hornady 140 SST’s made a huge difference with 3/4 to 1 inch consistent grouping, with groups 2″ high at 100 yards its good to go. The CZ 527 in 6.5 Grendel is still a puzzle, I only was able to obtain two loads for break in and testing, Hornady 123 Amax and Federal Gold Medal Match 130 Berger. The factory test target showed Hornady 123’s in a three shot group of 1 1/2 inches at 50 meters, not very optimistic about this ammo, but the rifle did much better than that but not as good as I’d like. It would put one shot then two an inch or more away touching or almost touching, I’m thinking/hoping its a bedding issue, we’ll see. The Berger bullets didn’t group at all, three shot groups from 1 1/2 to 2 inches, hopefully something else will group, I’ve got two more brands ordered for testing. Only time will tell.
Now I need to clean again.
Mostly due to my COPD I have to be careful where and with what I clean my firearms, can’t take the fumes in an enclosed space, the Wife had suggested I buy a folding table so I could set up in the garage when the weather wouldn’t permit working on the back deck. Smart lady, that’s why I married Her. Yesterday was my first time to use it, and it worked well, I cleaned all three 6.5 rifles in about an hour, the Creedmoor had fired about 40 rounds since its last cleaning and I was curious how much copper fouling it would show, the 30 round break in Ken (Barfield the builder) recommended did its job. No indications of coppering at all. The 550FS showed no signs of having been fired since it left CZ and cleaned up quickly, the CZ527 6.5 Grendel proved a good bit more time consuming. The old CZ preservative was present in good quantity but cleaned up with M Pro 7 and a nylon brush and a literal hand full of patches. Now they’re all ready to go to the range and get dirty again. If the weather co-operates I’m hoping to get them all sighted in, the Creedmoor has another date with the VIR 1,000 yard range in a couple of weeks.
I’ve shown the Custom 6.5 Creedmoor Ken Barfield built for me, soon after I got it CZ announced they’d be building the CZ527 in 6.5 Grendel with a 24″ barrel, the little 527’s are a favorite of mine so I threw my name in the hat for one and the waiting game began. A few weeks ago I learned a local shop had a CZ 550FS in 6.5×55 Swede, a rifle I’d been keeping an eye out for over a five year period or so, a friend beat me to it but told me I’d be at the top of list if he decided to sell it. Only a few week later he called and said it was mine if I still wanted it, well darned if the same day the local shop called to say the CZ 527 was finally in, I picked up the 550FS the very next day. I’m happy and the wife is shaking her head not for the first time, lol. The 550FS appears unfired and was built in 2001, the 527 doesn’t have great wood but is attractive but has the worst target I’ve seen with a CZ, good thing I know these are just function targets and I’ve never had one that wouldn’t better its factory target.
The 6.5 Creedmoor
The 550FS in 6.5×55 Swedish
The CZ 527American in 6.5 Grendel with 24″ barrel. A whole lot of 6.5 goodness there.
joins the fold, I have a 788 in .243 Win. that I’ve owned since 1974, it was my main hunting rifle for many years and is still one of my favorites. The new to me 6mm was one of several 788’s on consignment at a local shop, I’ve known they were there for couple of weeks but yesterday I went an took a look at them. There were two .243’s, a .308 and the 6mm, the 6mm came with the medium length Harris Bipod and a Bushnell Elite 3200 3-9x scope, the add on’s made it a bargain so temptation won again.
The 6mm is limited by a small selection of loads these days but with reloads it best the .243 by a 100 fps or so with any bullet weight, and is very versatile, looking forward to trying this one out.
This past Saturday found about a dozen shooters at VIR (Virginia International Raceway) attending my Gunsmiths LR Shooting class, Ken is a three time State Champion, two time Regional Champion and holds two NRA Records. Add to that his abilities as a Gunsmith and you have the makings of a really good glass. Shooting was from 500/800 and 1000 yards or steel targets, what a satisfying sound they make. Ken supplies rifles, ammunition and support services (tent awnings, mats, Bipod et al, He has snacks, water and soft drinks, other than providing your own lunch just bring yourself. Of course I have a sweet 6.5 Creedmoor he built for me so I shot it at both 500 and 800 yards, since the wind (Thunderstorms in the area) had gotten pretty twitchy by the time we hit 1000 yards and I’d packed my kit up in my car I shot one of his rifles at 1000 yards.
Some one commented that the 18″x22″ steels looked postage stamps at 1000 yards and that pretty much true, Total of about 3.5-4 hours of classroom, 5-5.5 hours on the range, learned a lot, relearned a lot and picked up some good hacks for things I already knew. Hope to do it again this fall.
1000 yards is a long ways, target are just to the left of the tower
500/800 yard firing line from above…
First groups was three inches low and four inches right but looked like had been fired on that bull…
12 clicks up and 16 left gave me this one…
It just kept up more of the same except for two that suffered from me suffering from the Pollen blowing around, red watering eyes don’t do much for my shooting and those had two touching and the third off opening it up to 3/4 inch or so.
Photobucket hoovers big time, still acting up so I’ve no idea what will actually so up.